Re: Meeting? November/December

Folks,

Well, it's time for us to have another meeting. I'd hoped that we could send
a delegation to a BALUG meeting, but I can't get anyone there to return my
e-mail. If any of you know a BALUG organizer, please give them a holler.

BTW, David & David -- what if we sent a group to the other SFPUG in the new
year? Would the Perl hackers want to hear about PostgreSQL?

OK, the meeting: next meeting should, by rotation, be at Casa Donde in
Oakland. Of course, this depends on our ability to carpool from BART, but
we did it before so I think we can do it again.

Meeting will be: 6:30-7:30 eating, 7:30-9pm meeting. I suggest doing a "pot
luck" as Casa Donde has ample space & kitchen facilities.

Topics discussed at the meeting may include any or all of the following:
1) Yet Even More New Stuff For 7.4 -- Stephan Szabo & me
2) "Building the PostgreSQL Function CPAN" starring Elein, Rich, & me.
3) Data-push and Set-returning functions as an API: my presentation from
PHPCon, with the PHP stuff downplayed;
4) Maybe David Wheeler could present on the data structure of Bricolage, since
we've seen the front end ....
5) Other suggestions?

Please mark what dates work for you. As always, mark "A" for Preferred, "B"
for "OK but not preferred", and "N" for "Cannot attend"

Monday November 10
Tuesday November 11
Wednesday November 12
Thursday November 13
Friday November 14

Monday November 17
Tuesday November 18
Wednesday November 19
Thursday November 20
Friday November 21

Monday December 1
Tuesday December 2
Wednesday December 3
Thursday December 4
Friday December 5

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

> Please mark what dates work for you. As always, mark "A" for Preferred, "B"
> for "OK but not preferred", and "N" for "Cannot attend"
>
B > Monday November 10 -- too soon for script repository talk
B > Tuesday November 11
B > Wednesday November 12
N > Thursday November 13
B > Friday November 14
>
A > Monday November 17
A > Tuesday November 18
N > Wednesday November 19
N > Thursday November 20
B > Friday November 21
>
B > Monday December 1
B > Tuesday December 2
B > Wednesday December 3
N > Thursday December 4
B > Friday December 5
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco

Folks,

Given the early responses (which all conflict), please also give your
availability for:

Monday December 8
Tuesday December 9
Wednesday December 10
Thursday December 11
Friday December 12

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Well, it's time for us to have another meeting. I'd hoped that we could send
> a delegation to a BALUG meeting, but I can't get anyone there to return my
> e-mail. If any of you know a BALUG organizer, please give them a holler.
>
> BTW, David & David -- what if we sent a group to the other SFPUG in the new
> year? Would the Perl hackers want to hear about PostgreSQL?
>
> OK, the meeting: next meeting should, by rotation, be at Casa Donde in
> Oakland. Of course, this depends on our ability to carpool from BART, but
> we did it before so I think we can do it again.
>
> Meeting will be: 6:30-7:30 eating, 7:30-9pm meeting. I suggest doing a "pot
> luck" as Casa Donde has ample space & kitchen facilities.
>
> Topics discussed at the meeting may include any or all of the following:
> 1) Yet Even More New Stuff For 7.4 -- Stephan Szabo & me
> 2) "Building the PostgreSQL Function CPAN" starring Elein, Rich, & me.
> 3) Data-push and Set-returning functions as an API: my presentation from
> PHPCon, with the PHP stuff downplayed;
> 4) Maybe David Wheeler could present on the data structure of Bricolage, since
> we've seen the front end ....
> 5) Other suggestions?
>
> Please mark what dates work for you. As always, mark "A" for Preferred, "B"
> for "OK but not preferred", and "N" for "Cannot attend"
>
> Monday November 10 B
> Tuesday November 11 B
> Wednesday November 12 B
> Thursday November 13 A
> Friday November 14 B
>
> Monday November 17 B
> Tuesday November 18 A
> Wednesday November 19 B
> Thursday November 20 B
> Friday November 21 N
>
> Monday December 1 B
> Tuesday December 2 A
> Wednesday December 3 B
> Thursday December 4 A
> Friday December 5 B
>
> Monday December 8 B
> Tuesday December 9 A
> Wednesday December 10 B
> Thursday December 11 B
> Friday December 12 B

On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 10:06 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:

> BTW, David & David -- what if we sent a group to the other SFPUG in
> the new
> year? Would the Perl hackers want to hear about PostgreSQL?

Definitely.

> Topics discussed at the meeting may include any or all of the
> following:
> 1) Yet Even More New Stuff For 7.4 -- Stephan Szabo & me
> 2) "Building the PostgreSQL Function CPAN" starring Elein, Rich, & me.
> 3) Data-push and Set-returning functions as an API: my presentation
> from
> PHPCon, with the PHP stuff downplayed;
> 4) Maybe David Wheeler could present on the data structure of
> Bricolage, since
> we've seen the front end ....

Please, I don't wish to be publicly embarrassed. ;-) Let me know if you
still think that after you've had a look at it.

> 5) Other suggestions?
>
> Please mark what dates work for you. As always, mark "A" for
> Preferred, "B"
> for "OK but not preferred", and "N" for "Cannot attend"
>
> Monday November 10 N
> Tuesday November 11 N
> Wednesday November 12 N
> Thursday November 13 N
> Friday November 14 N
>
> Monday November 17 A
> Tuesday November 18 A
> Wednesday November 19 B
> Thursday November 20 A
> Friday November 21 B
>
> Monday December 1 A
> Tuesday December 2 A
> Wednesday December 3 B
> Thursday December 4 A
> Friday December 5 B

Regards,

David

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On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 10:25 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Monday December 8 A
> Tuesday December 9 A
> Wednesday December 10 B
> Thursday December 11 A
> Friday December 12 A

David

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On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:06:20AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Well, it's time for us to have another meeting. I'd hoped that we could send
> a delegation to a BALUG meeting, but I can't get anyone there to return my
> e-mail. If any of you know a BALUG organizer, please give them a holler.

That's odd that they're not getting back to you--whom have you emailed
there? I know they were looking for speakers recently, too.

> Please mark what dates work for you. As always, mark "A" for Preferred, "B"
> for "OK but not preferred", and "N" for "Cannot attend"

Unfortunately, I think all dates are B or N for me right now, as my wife
could give birth Any Day Now (TM), so I'm busy prepping my work so I
can take time off, and can't really plan beyond a day or two. :)

--keith

--
kkeller(at)speakeasy(dot)net
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Keith,

> That's odd that they're not getting back to you--whom have you emailed
> there? I know they were looking for speakers recently, too.

A couple of the contact addresses off the web site.

> Unfortunately, I think all dates are B or N for me right now, as my wife
> could give birth Any Day Now (TM), so I'm busy prepping my work so I
> can take time off, and can't really plan beyond a day or two. :)

Mazel Tov!

BTW, did you want to change your subscription address?

--
-Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:53:44AM -0800, Keith Keller wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:06:20AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:

> > Well, it's time for us to have another meeting. I'd hoped that
> > we could send a delegation to a BALUG meeting, but I can't get
> > anyone there to return my e-mail. If any of you know a BALUG
> > organizer, please give them a holler.

> That's odd that they're not getting back to you--whom have you
> emailed there? I know they were looking for speakers recently, too.

They're a little less active than they were a few years ago...

> > Please mark what dates work for you. As always, mark "A" for
> > Preferred, "B" for "OK but not preferred", and "N" for "Cannot
> > attend"

> Unfortunately, I think all dates are B or N for me right now, as my
> wife could give birth Any Day Now (TM), so I'm busy prepping my work
> so I can take time off, and can't really plan beyond a day or two.
> :)

Mazal Tov!

Are you starting the kid PostgreSQL soon? ;)

Cheers,
D
--
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phone: +1 510 893 6100 cell: +1 415 235 3778

On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:06:20AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Well, it's time for us to have another meeting. I'd hoped that we
> could send a delegation to a BALUG meeting, but I can't get anyone
> there to return my e-mail. If any of you know a BALUG organizer,
> please give them a holler.
>
> BTW, David & David -- what if we sent a group to the other SFPUG in
> the new year? Would the Perl hackers want to hear about PostgreSQL?

They're in, for sure. We could do some kind of presentation
there--I'm voting for any of 1-5 below, 2, 3, 5, 4, 1 in order of
preference.

> Topics discussed at the meeting may include any or all of the following:
> 1) Yet Even More New Stuff For 7.4 -- Stephan Szabo & me
> 2) "Building the PostgreSQL Function CPAN" starring Elein, Rich, & me.
> 3) Data-push and Set-returning functions as an API: my presentation from
> PHPCon, with the PHP stuff downplayed;
> 4) Maybe David Wheeler could present on the data structure of Bricolage, since
> we've seen the front end ....
> 5) Other suggestions?

5) Making Perl and your DB Play Nice(TM).

> Please mark what dates work for you. As always, mark "A" for
> Preferred, "B" for "OK but not preferred", and "N" for "Cannot
> attend"

> Monday November 10 A
> Tuesday November 11 B -- Veterans' Day
> Wednesday November 12 A
> Thursday November 13 A
> Friday November 14 B -- Shabbat ;)
>
> Monday November 17 A
> Tuesday November 18 A
> Wednesday November 19 A
> Thursday November 20 A
> Friday November 21 B -- Shabbat ;)
>
> Monday December 1 A
> Tuesday December 2 A
> Wednesday December 3 A
> Thursday December 4 A
> Friday December 5 B -- Shabbat ;)

> Monday December 8 A
> Tuesday December 9 A
> Wednesday December 10 A
> Thursday December 11 A
> Friday December 12 B -- Shabbat ;)

Cheers,
D
--
David Fetter david(at)fetter(dot)org http://fetter.org/
phone: +1 510 893 6100 cell: +1 415 235 3778

People,

I''ve not had time to work on setting a meeting date; 7.4 comes out next week
and the PR stuff has me swamped.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:59:01AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> People,
>
> I''ve not had time to work on setting a meeting date; 7.4 comes out
^^

LOL!

> next week and the PR stuff has me swamped.

How 'bout hanging out w/the SF Perl UG (<http://sf.pm.org>)? They'd
be happy to meet us, and if somebody has a presentation ready to go,
they'd be happier yet. :)

Cheers,
D
--
David Fetter david(at)fetter(dot)org http://fetter.org/
phone: +1 510 893 6100 cell: +1 415 235 3778

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, David Fetter wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:59:01AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > People,
> >
> > I''ve not had time to work on setting a meeting date; 7.4 comes out
> ^^
>
> LOL!
>
> > next week and the PR stuff has me swamped.
>
> How 'bout hanging out w/the SF Perl UG (<http://sf.pm.org>)? They'd
> be happy to meet us, and if somebody has a presentation ready to go,
> they'd be happier yet. :)
>

i can second that... there's some crossover between the two
groups, and the perl group is *always* ready for a good database
discussion.

matt (sf.pm.org founder) lanier

Guys,

> > How 'bout hanging out w/the SF Perl UG (<http://sf.pm.org>)? They'd
> > be happy to meet us, and if somebody has a presentation ready to go,
> > they'd be happier yet. :)
>
> i can second that... there's some crossover between the two
> groups, and the perl group is *always* ready for a good database
> discussion.

What date? I'm up for it.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

postgres folk-

our meetings are generally on the 4'th tuesday of the month, and info on
the meeting specifics can be found at http://sf.pm.org. nothing has yet
been posted about the november meeting, but should come out soon.

m@

On Fri,
14 Nov 2003, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Guys,
>
> > > How 'bout hanging out w/the SF Perl UG (<http://sf.pm.org>)? They'd
> > > be happy to meet us, and if somebody has a presentation ready to go,
> > > they'd be happier yet. :)
> >
> > i can second that... there's some crossover between the two
> > groups, and the perl group is *always* ready for a good database
> > discussion.
>
> What date? I'm up for it.
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
>

Matthew D. P. K. Strelchun-Lanier
matt(at)cloudfactory(dot)org

"No US president has successfully served
another full term in office after leading
the country through a major conflict."

-CS Monitor, 7/11/03

Matt,

> our meetings are generally on the 4'th tuesday of the month, and info on
> the meeting specifics can be found at http://sf.pm.org. nothing has yet
> been posted about the november meeting, but should come out soon.

OK. I would be happy to present: "Database Dependance as a Design Strategy"

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

David,

> > OK. I would be happy to present: "Database Dependance as a Design
> > Strategy"
>
> I'd go to that. I might argue with you (or I might not), but I'd
> definitely go.

Hey, we could do a cool panel: Database Dependance vs. Database Independance.

--
-Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 01:55 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:

> OK. I would be happy to present: "Database Dependance as a Design
> Strategy"

I'd go to that. I might argue with you (or I might not), but I'd
definitely go.

Regards,

David

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On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 06:40 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:

>> I'd go to that. I might argue with you (or I might not), but I'd
>> definitely go.
>
> Hey, we could do a cool panel: Database Dependance vs. Database
> Independance.

Yeah, I'm down with that.

Matt, you want to tell Quinn, or should I?

D

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http://www.kineticode.com/ Yahoo!: dew7e
Jabber: Theory(at)jabber(dot)org
Kineticode. Setting knowledge in motion.[sm]

it's already taken care of.

m@

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, David Wheeler wrote:

> On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 06:40 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> >> I'd go to that. I might argue with you (or I might not), but I'd
> >> definitely go.
> >
> > Hey, we could do a cool panel: Database Dependance vs. Database
> > Independance.
>
> Yeah, I'm down with that.
>
> Matt, you want to tell Quinn, or should I?
>
> D
>
> --
> David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory
> david(at)kineticode(dot)com ICQ: 15726394
> http://www.kineticode.com/ Yahoo!: dew7e
> Jabber: Theory(at)jabber(dot)org
> Kineticode. Setting knowledge in motion.[sm]
>

Matthew D. P. K. Strelchun-Lanier
matt(at)cloudfactory(dot)org

"No US president has successfully served
another full term in office after leading
the country through a major conflict."

-CS Monitor, 7/11/03

On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 06:53 PM, Matthew Lanier wrote:

> it's already taken care of.

Yeah, I saw right after I sent that last message.

Thanks,

David

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Kineticode. Setting knowledge in motion.[sm]

People:

I don't think we're going to have a November/December meeting if it's up to me
to organize it. For one thing, I don't think that I could *attend* any
meeting before the holidays. Sorry!

We're tentatively scheduled to join the Perl User's Group at their meeting in
January. Do we want to have our own meeting, as well?

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

On Monday, December 1, 2003, at 08:19 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:

> We're tentatively scheduled to join the Perl User's Group at their
> meeting in
> January. Do we want to have our own meeting, as well?

I'm game.

David

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Kineticode. Setting knowledge in motion.[sm]

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:19:10PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> People:
>
> I don't think we're going to have a November/December meeting if
> it's up to me to organize it. For one thing, I don't think that I
> could *attend* any meeting before the holidays. Sorry!
>
> We're tentatively scheduled to join the Perl User's Group at their
> meeting in January. Do we want to have our own meeting, as well?

That'd be great. :)

Cheers,
D
--
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phone: +1 510 893 6100 cell: +1 415 235 3778

sounds good

Patrick Hatcher
Macys.Com

Josh Berkus
<josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
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Subject
12/01/2003 08:19 PM Re: [sfpug] Meeting?
November/December

People:

I don't think we're going to have a November/December meeting if it's up to
me
to organize it. For one thing, I don't think that I could *attend* any
meeting before the holidays. Sorry!

We're tentatively scheduled to join the Perl User's Group at their meeting
in
January. Do we want to have our own meeting, as well?

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Keep us up to date on the status of the Perl joint
meeting.

I think we are due for our own meeting as well. It
could wait until February, I suppose, but we'll need
to actually meet.

Topics for sfpug meeting per previous mail:
- PgScripts (elein, rich, josh)
- 7.4 Stephan Szabo, Josh
- Data-push/set-returning functions using PHP (josh, phpcon material)
- Bricolage data structures (wheeler)
- (new) Resource survey and call for articles (elein)

elein

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:19:10PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> People:
>
> I don't think we're going to have a November/December meeting if it's up to me
> to organize it. For one thing, I don't think that I could *attend* any
> meeting before the holidays. Sorry!
>
> We're tentatively scheduled to join the Perl User's Group at their meeting in
> January. Do we want to have our own meeting, as well?
>
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Josh Berkus wrote:

> We're tentatively scheduled to join the Perl User's Group at their meeting in
> January. Do we want to have our own meeting, as well?

Sounds like a good idea.