Re: [DOCS] HTML Page titles in HTML version?

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From: Jay Levitt <jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Pg Docs <pgsql-docs(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: HTML Page titles in HTML version?
Date: 2012-02-12 16:54:31
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I frequently find myself with multiple tabs open to the docs site, all
titled "PosgreSQL: Documentation". Does the new site back-end make it easy
to add a meaningful <TITLE> tag, or would that take a mass commit to the
core docs?

Jay Levitt


From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Jay Levitt <jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: [DOCS] HTML Page titles in HTML version?
Date: 2012-02-12 16:59:36
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 17:54, Jay Levitt <jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> I frequently find myself with multiple tabs open to the docs site, all
> titled "PosgreSQL: Documentation". Does the new site back-end make it easy
> to add a meaningful <TITLE> tag, or would that take a mass commit to the
> core docs?

Actually, it *has* the information in the title. E.g. "PostgreSQL:
Documentation: Manuals: Queries". It's just too long.

Maybe we need to reverse the elements in the title?

But I don't think it's limited to docs - don't you have the same
problem with all other pages? They all start with "PostgreSQL:" -
perhaps that should be changed to instead suffix them with "-
PostgreSQL"?

(moving to -www since it affects the whole site)

--
 Magnus Hagander
 Me: http://www.hagander.net/
 Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/


From: Jay Levitt <jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Pg Docs <pgsql-docs(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [DOCS] HTML Page titles in HTML version?
Date: 2012-02-12 21:20:16
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 17:54, Jay Levitt<jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> I frequently find myself with multiple tabs open to the docs site, all
>> titled "PosgreSQL: Documentation". Does the new site back-end make it easy
>> to add a meaningful<TITLE> tag, or would that take a mass commit to the
>> core docs?
>
> Actually, it *has* the information in the title. E.g. "PostgreSQL:
> Documentation: Manuals: Queries". It's just too long.
>
> Maybe we need to reverse the elements in the title?
>
> But I don't think it's limited to docs - don't you have the same
> problem with all other pages? They all start with "PostgreSQL:" -
> perhaps that should be changed to instead suffix them with "-
> PostgreSQL"?

Yeah, in general it's best practice to post the most specific part of the
title first, so that short tabs will still show the relevant info. Also
used to help with SEO; not sure if it still does, but it might explain why
you don't always get the right page when doing a Google search.

Jay


From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Jay Levitt <jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Pg Docs <pgsql-docs(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [DOCS] HTML Page titles in HTML version?
Date: 2012-02-15 09:56:59
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 22:20, Jay Levitt <jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 17:54, Jay Levitt<jay(dot)levitt(at)gmail(dot)com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I frequently find myself with multiple tabs open to the docs site, all
>>> titled "PosgreSQL: Documentation". Does the new site back-end make it
>>> easy
>>> to add a meaningful<TITLE>  tag, or would that take a mass commit to the
>>> core docs?
>>
>>
>> Actually, it *has* the information in the title. E.g. "PostgreSQL:
>> Documentation: Manuals: Queries". It's just too long.
>>
>> Maybe we need to reverse the elements in the title?
>>
>> But I don't think it's limited to docs - don't you have the same
>> problem with all other pages? They all start with "PostgreSQL:" -
>> perhaps that should be changed to instead suffix them with "-
>> PostgreSQL"?
>
> Yeah, in general it's best practice to post the most specific part of the
> title first, so that short tabs will still show the relevant info.  Also
> used to help with SEO; not sure if it still does, but it might explain why
> you don't always get the right page when doing a Google search.

Probably. I've put this on our TODO list for things to do with the
website in a reasonable short term.

(I doubt it has anything to do with SEO though, especially someone
like google are a lot smarter than that)

--
 Magnus Hagander
 Me: http://www.hagander.net/
 Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/