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| From: | Brian Ghidinelli <brian(at)pukkasoft(dot)com> |
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| To: | SF Postgres <sfpug(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | AWS adds MySQL |
| Date: | 2009-10-27 20:40:45 |
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Amazon Web Services added a MySQL-based service which has some neat
features (http://aws.amazon.com/rds) around backup and scalability.
They have DB-specific instances with up to 68GB of memory available.
Anyone have any insight into whether or not this might happen for
Postgres too? It would be great promotion for it to be natively
supported on Amazon.
Brian
| From: | Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> |
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| To: | Brian Ghidinelli <brian(at)pukkasoft(dot)com> |
| Cc: | SF Postgres <sfpug(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: AWS adds MySQL |
| Date: | 2009-10-27 21:55:45 |
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On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 13:40 -0700, Brian Ghidinelli wrote:
> It would be great promotion for it to be natively
> supported on Amazon.
This is an issue for -advocacy, I think. Try running postgresql in
various cloud environments, show off the cool stuff, and report the bad
stuff. I'm sure you could make some interesting articles, and postgresql
could get some good press.
Running database systems in a cloud is fairly experimental. So,
experimentation and results tend to get press attention.
You make a good point that we want PostgreSQL to be a prominent player
in any successful experiments. However, we don't want to pretend that
any database system in the cloud is more stable and predictable than it
actually is. Otherwise, we just end up with disappointed users.
Regarding Amazon specifically: if customers demand it, they will provide
it.
Regards,
Jeff Davis
| From: | Rushan <rushan(dot)chen(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Brian Ghidinelli <brian(at)pukkasoft(dot)com>, SF Postgres <sfpug(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: AWS adds MySQL |
| Date: | 2009-10-28 20:43:35 |
| Message-ID: | 54eaf7480910281343g673ae709w19bee6a365c54af3@mail.gmail.com |
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Another company making the move in that direction is Teradata:
not sure if Amazon will pick this one up as hosted service.
Rushan
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 13:40 -0700, Brian Ghidinelli wrote:
> > It would be great promotion for it to be natively
> > supported on Amazon.
>
> This is an issue for -advocacy, I think. Try running postgresql in
> various cloud environments, show off the cool stuff, and report the bad
> stuff. I'm sure you could make some interesting articles, and postgresql
> could get some good press.
>
> Running database systems in a cloud is fairly experimental. So,
> experimentation and results tend to get press attention.
>
> You make a good point that we want PostgreSQL to be a prominent player
> in any successful experiments. However, we don't want to pretend that
> any database system in the cloud is more stable and predictable than it
> actually is. Otherwise, we just end up with disappointed users.
>
> Regarding Amazon specifically: if customers demand it, they will provide
> it.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff Davis
>
>
| From: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
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| To: | Brian Ghidinelli <brian(at)pukkasoft(dot)com> |
| Cc: | SF Postgres <sfpug(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: AWS adds MySQL |
| Date: | 2009-11-03 16:23:39 |
| Message-ID: | 4AF0590B.9080708@agliodbs.com |
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Brian,
> Anyone have any insight into whether or not this might happen for
> Postgres too? It would be great promotion for it to be natively
Apparently this exists already:
--Josh Berkus
| From: | Brian Ghidinelli <brian(at)pukkasoft(dot)com> |
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| To: | SF Postgres <sfpug(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: AWS adds MySQL |
| Date: | 2009-11-03 17:52:49 |
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Apparently this exists already:
> www.rdbhost.com
Not sure this is apples to apples? Rdbhost seems to be
postgres-as-a-web-service which is not the same as postgres-as-a-service
inside a particular hosting facility. Wouldn't the WAN aspect make
rdbhost untenable for most traditional web apps?
Amazon's MySQL setup is like running your own MySQL server but without
being responsible for any of the management, backup, scaling, etc.
Brian
| From: | Peter Headland <Peter(at)matrixlink(dot)com> |
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| To: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> |
| Cc: | SF Postgres <sfpug(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: AWS adds MySQL |
| Date: | 2009-11-03 18:05:02 |
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Apparently this exists already: www.rdbhost.com
I thought the OP was commenting on an opportunity for promoting pg, not
seeking a hosting service. rdbhost does nothing significant to promote
pg to the world at large.
--
Peter Headland